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Victor Porton: Fact and Faith site

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Fact and Faith site

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	* [[Theology:Fall of the man\|Fall of the man]]		* [[Theology:Fall of the man\|Fall of the man]]

			== References ==

			* [http://www.factandfaith.co.za Fact and Faith]. A zoology PhD attempts to reconcile evolution and Bible.

Victor Porton: about galaxy

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about galaxy

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	If Geology developed as described by the mainstream science, how kangaroos reached Australia after the Flood? Counterargument: Maybe the Flood happened only in Eurasia? (It seems that what is commonly translated "Earth" in Bible about the Flood may mean a territory, such as Eurasia.) For this to happen, the altitude of Eurasia would need to be below altitude of other continents before the Flood. Is it possible? However, Bible teaches that the land was divided [[Tanakh:1 Chronicles 1:19]] (and it agrees with mainstream science), but disagrees with the mainstream science on when and how quickly or slowly this happened.		If Geology developed as described by the mainstream science, how kangaroos reached Australia after the Flood? Counterargument: Maybe the Flood happened only in Eurasia? (It seems that what is commonly translated "Earth" in Bible about the Flood may mean a territory, such as Eurasia.) For this to happen, the altitude of Eurasia would need to be below altitude of other continents before the Flood. Is it possible? However, Bible teaches that the land was divided [[Tanakh:1 Chronicles 1:19]] (and it agrees with mainstream science), but disagrees with the mainstream science on when and how quickly or slowly this happened.

			I suspect that the words "day" and "night" here refer to position of the Earth in the galaxy (as about rotation of the galaxy or about position of the Earth in a spiral arm of the galaxy (day) or between arms (night), so having more or less lumination from God's stars).

	=== Biblical arguments pro evolution ===		=== Biblical arguments pro evolution ===

Victor Porton: /* Biblical arguments against evolution */

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Biblical arguments against evolution

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	Accordingly Bible, birds were created later than fruit trees, but accordingly to evolution theory, fruits of the trees and birds which eat them co-evolved at the same time. Counter-argument: First fruit trees may have not edible (not suitable for birds) fruits. They may co-evolve with birds afterward.		Accordingly Bible, birds were created later than fruit trees, but accordingly to evolution theory, fruits of the trees and birds which eat them co-evolved at the same time. Counter-argument: First fruit trees may have not edible (not suitable for birds) fruits. They may co-evolve with birds afterward.

	If Geology developed as described by the mainstream science, how kangaroos reached Australia after the Flood? Counterargument: Maybe the Flood happened only in Eurasia? (It seems that what is commonly translated "Earth" in Bible about the Flood may mean a territory, such as Eurasia.) For this to happen, the altitude of Eurasia would need to be below altitude of other continents before the Flood. Is it possible?		If Geology developed as described by the mainstream science, how kangaroos reached Australia after the Flood? Counterargument: Maybe the Flood happened only in Eurasia? (It seems that what is commonly translated "Earth" in Bible about the Flood may mean a territory, such as Eurasia.) For this to happen, the altitude of Eurasia would need to be below altitude of other continents before the Flood. Is it possible? However, Bible teaches that the land was divided [[Tanakh:1 Chronicles 1:19]] (and it agrees with mainstream science), but disagrees with the mainstream science on when and how quickly or slowly this happened.

	=== Biblical arguments pro evolution ===		=== Biblical arguments pro evolution ===

Victor Porton: /* Biblical arguments against evolution */

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	Accordingly Bible, birds were created later than fruit trees, but accordingly to evolution theory, fruits of the trees and birds which eat them co-evolved at the same time. Counter-argument: First fruit trees may have not edible (not suitable for birds) fruits. They may co-evolve with birds afterward.		Accordingly Bible, birds were created later than fruit trees, but accordingly to evolution theory, fruits of the trees and birds which eat them co-evolved at the same time. Counter-argument: First fruit trees may have not edible (not suitable for birds) fruits. They may co-evolve with birds afterward.

	If Geology developed as described by the mainstream science, how kangaroos reached Australia after the Flood? Counterargument: Maybe the Flood happened only in Eurasia? (It seems that what is commonly translated "Earth" in Bible about the Flood may mean a territory, such as Eurasia.)		If Geology developed as described by the mainstream science, how kangaroos reached Australia after the Flood? Counterargument: Maybe the Flood happened only in Eurasia? (It seems that what is commonly translated "Earth" in Bible about the Flood may mean a territory, such as Eurasia.) For this to happen, the altitude of Eurasia would need to be below altitude of other continents before the Flood. Is it possible?

	=== Biblical arguments pro evolution ===		=== Biblical arguments pro evolution ===

Victor Porton: /* Biblical arguments against evolution */

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	Accordingly Bible, birds were created later than fruit trees, but accordingly to evolution theory, fruits of the trees and birds which eat them co-evolved at the same time. Counter-argument: First fruit trees may have not edible (not suitable for birds) fruits. They may co-evolve with birds afterward.		Accordingly Bible, birds were created later than fruit trees, but accordingly to evolution theory, fruits of the trees and birds which eat them co-evolved at the same time. Counter-argument: First fruit trees may have not edible (not suitable for birds) fruits. They may co-evolve with birds afterward.

	If Geology developed as described by the mainstream science, how kangaroos reached Australia? Counterargument: Maybe the Flood happened only in Eurasia? (It seems that what is commonly translated "Earth" in Bible about the Flood may mean a territory, such as Eurasia.)		If Geology developed as described by the mainstream science, how kangaroos reached Australia after the Flood? Counterargument: Maybe the Flood happened only in Eurasia? (It seems that what is commonly translated "Earth" in Bible about the Flood may mean a territory, such as Eurasia.)

	=== Biblical arguments pro evolution ===		=== Biblical arguments pro evolution ===

Victor Porton: /* Biblical arguments against evolution */

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Biblical arguments against evolution

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	Accordingly Bible, birds were created later than fruit trees, but accordingly to evolution theory, fruits of the trees and birds which eat them co-evolved at the same time. Counter-argument: First fruit trees may have not edible (not suitable for birds) fruits. They may co-evolve with birds afterward.		Accordingly Bible, birds were created later than fruit trees, but accordingly to evolution theory, fruits of the trees and birds which eat them co-evolved at the same time. Counter-argument: First fruit trees may have not edible (not suitable for birds) fruits. They may co-evolve with birds afterward.

			If Geology developed as described by the mainstream science, how kangaroos reached Australia? Counterargument: Maybe the Flood happened only in Eurasia? (It seems that what is commonly translated "Earth" in Bible about the Flood may mean a territory, such as Eurasia.)

	=== Biblical arguments pro evolution ===		=== Biblical arguments pro evolution ===

Victor Porton: /* Biblical arguments pro evolution */

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Biblical arguments pro evolution

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	Jesus says that serpents and scorpions are created by Devil: (Luk. 10:19) "Behold, I give you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy. Nothing will in any way hurt you." Thus it is a liable theory that the evolution on the Earth was going under effect of both God and Devil.		Jesus says that serpents and scorpions are created by Devil: (Luk. 10:19) "Behold, I give you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy. Nothing will in any way hurt you." Thus it is a liable theory that the evolution on the Earth was going under effect of both God and Devil.

			[[Exegesis:Isaiah 64:2\|Isaiah 64:2-3]] says that "mountains flowed since antiquity". This implies a very long ago creation of mountains of the Earth.

	== On creation of man ==		== On creation of man ==

Victor Porton: /* Biblical arguments pro evolution */

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Biblical arguments pro evolution

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	[[User:Victor Porton\|Victor Porton]] translated the following verses in a way supporting evolution:		[[User:Victor Porton\|Victor Porton]] translated the following verses in a way supporting evolution:
	* [[Exegesis:Genesis 1:11\|Gen. 1:11]] "Earth will sprout green plants producing descendant, fruit tree making fruit for its kind making progress of his offspring in it on the Earth".		* [[Exegesis:Genesis 1:11\|Gen. 1:11]] "Earth will sprout green plants producing descendant, fruit tree making fruit for its kind making progress of his offspring in it on the Earth". (It can be interpreted as fruit tree being descendants of grass.)
	* [[Exegesis:Genesis 1:25\|Gen. 1:25]] "God has made relatives on the Earth by their kind" (if it is translated correctly, different kind of species are called relatives by Bible).		* [[Exegesis:Genesis 1:25\|Gen. 1:25]] "God has made relatives on the Earth by their kind" (if it is translated correctly, different kind of species are called relatives by Bible).
	* [[Exegesis:Genesis 1:29\|Gen. 1:29]] "grass offspring bearing seed making progress on the surface of the entire Earth, and all trees making progress in their seed of the tree, offspring bearing seed".		* [[Exegesis:Genesis 1:29\|Gen. 1:29]] "grass offspring bearing seed making progress on the surface of the entire Earth, and all trees making progress in their seed of the tree, offspring bearing seed".

Victor Porton: /* Biblical arguments against evolution */ About fruit trees and birds

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Biblical arguments against evolution: About fruit trees and birds

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	[[Exegesis:Genesis_1:30\|Gen. 1:30]] says that before the Flood all animals were eating grass, and this contradicts to the scientific evolution theory. Counter-argument: [[Exegesis:Genesis_1:30\|Gen. 1:30]] may be understood as a future event (after the Second Come of Christ), not the description of the situation before the Flood.		[[Exegesis:Genesis_1:30\|Gen. 1:30]] says that before the Flood all animals were eating grass, and this contradicts to the scientific evolution theory. Counter-argument: [[Exegesis:Genesis_1:30\|Gen. 1:30]] may be understood as a future event (after the Second Come of Christ), not the description of the situation before the Flood.

			Accordingly Bible, birds were created later than fruit trees, but accordingly to evolution theory, fruits of the trees and birds which eat them co-evolved at the same time. Counter-argument: First fruit trees may have not edible (not suitable for birds) fruits. They may co-evolve with birds afterward.

	=== Biblical arguments pro evolution ===		=== Biblical arguments pro evolution ===

Victor Porton: /* On creation of man */

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On creation of man

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	Well, probably some biotechnology of God (or an advanced civilization used by God) was used to transform monkeys into people.		Well, probably some biotechnology of God (or an advanced civilization used by God) was used to transform monkeys into people.

	Bible disagrees with modern science about the time period (as investigated by radiocarbon dating) of existence of man. But this can be easily explained by the fact that before the Flood the atmosphere of the Earth was different and thus radiocarbon dating produces wrong results when analyzing events before the Flood.		Bible disagrees with modern science about the time period (as investigated by radiocarbon dating) of existence of man. But this can be easily explained by the fact that before the Flood the atmosphere of the Earth was different (so producing different quantities of carbon isotopes) and thus radiocarbon dating produces wrong results when analyzing events before the Flood.

	== Related topics ==		== Related topics ==

	* [[Theology:Fall of the man\|Fall of the man]]		* [[Theology:Fall of the man\|Fall of the man]]

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	[[User:Victor Porton\|Victor Porton]] translated the following verses in a way supporting evolution:		[[User:Victor Porton\|Victor Porton]] translated the following verses in a way supporting evolution:
	* [[Exegesis:Genesis 1:11\|Gen. 1:11]] "Earth will sprout green plants producing descendant, fruit tree making fruit for its kind making progress of his offspring in it on the Earth".		* [[Exegesis:Genesis 1:11\|Gen. 1:11]] "Earth will sprout green plants producing descendant, fruit tree making fruit for its kind making progress of his offspring in it on the Earth". (It can be interpreted as fruit tree being descendants of grass.)
	* [[Exegesis:Genesis 1:25\|Gen. 1:25]] "God has made relatives on the Earth by their kind" (if it is translated correctly, different kind of species are called relatives by Bible).		* [[Exegesis:Genesis 1:25\|Gen. 1:25]] "God has made relatives on the Earth by their kind" (if it is translated correctly, different kind of species are called relatives by Bible).
	* [[Exegesis:Genesis 1:29\|Gen. 1:29]] "grass offspring bearing seed making progress on the surface of the entire Earth, and all trees making progress in their seed of the tree, offspring bearing seed".		* [[Exegesis:Genesis 1:29\|Gen. 1:29]] "grass offspring bearing seed making progress on the surface of the entire Earth, and all trees making progress in their seed of the tree, offspring bearing seed".